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Inexpensive headphones

June 29, 2004

Hi Wes,

I've read your review of the Etymotic ER-6 in-ear headphones. I liked it very much. I enjoy it when audiophiles write about how to listen to music.

Well, I want to change my, I quote, "offensively nasty" headphones, but maybe for me to spend $129 for a pair of headphones is too much, so I was wondering if you could recommend something cheaper -- let's say, more or less $50-$70.

Do you have any idea of what I can buy?

Andrea

I got your letter while I was in Indiana, recording Cantus on location. As it so happens, bass singer Tim Takesh played me a few tracks on his iPod through Sony MDR-V700 headphones, which he paid about $75 for -- and I thought they sounded fantastic, with tons of deep bass and beautifully liquid midrange detail. They were also extremely comfortable.

There are also several models of Grado between $50 and $70, which many audiophiles feel are the headphones to beat in the price range.


Focus Audio questions

June 27, 2004

Hi Wes,

In your review of the Focus Audio Signature FS-888s from last year you said that you needed to sit a little farther back from them than you normally do. Do you think that it's a function of the relatively high tweeter positioning of this speaker? How far back did you have to sit in order to achieve optimal sound? What problems did you encounter when you sat closer than that?

I heard them at HE2004 in NY a few weeks ago and was extremely impressed. However, your comments make me wonder if one needs a very large room to accommodate these speakers.

Chris

Yes, I suspect that the tweeter placement on the FS-888s is the reason I needed a little extra room between my seat and the speakers, but it wasn't a matter a yards, just an extra 18-24", if I recall correctly.

I also liked the sound of the FS-888s at HE'04. I thought Phil Lamm did an excellent job of showing what they could do -- and that room wasn't all that big. If yours is similar in size, I think you'll do OK.

And there are setup tricks that can get the most out of speakers even when you don't have all the space you'd ideally like. Check out my article in which I discuss the setup procedure of Immedia’s Alan Perkins and Audio Physic’s Joachim Gerhard. This novel method uses your room's boundaries to take advantage of the Haas precedence effect. If you have a largish speaker like the FS-888 Signature and a small room, it can be a life saver.


Taken with vintage tubes

June 24, 2004

Hi Wes,

I've very much enjoyed your writing for some time and now wish to pose my own question -- or rather, seek the benefit of your wisdom/experience!

After various "upgrades" I finally found myself with a Quad 44 control (preamp) unit and a Quad 405 power amp. I acquired a second 405 and, while they were sent away for modification by Quad, to make them a mono pair, I imported to the UK from the States an Eico ST70, having decided I wanted to find out what all the fuss was about with tubes.

Boy, did I find out! What a glorious beast is that Eico ST70! Sure, maybe it's a bit more colored than some solid-state amps I've heard, but it reproduces the tonal colors of woodwind instruments and captures voice timbre damn near perfectly. And there's nothing booming about the bass from an Eico ST70 (not played through my Yamaha NS1000Ms) -- that amp, unlike some tubes I have heard since, can handle rock music just as well as it does acoustic music, orchestras, and jazz. So I bought myself a tube preamp to try with the newly converted 405s, a TL1 from the Trevor Lee's stable in Oz. Apparently, it's built around the Dyna PAS3 model with no tone controls. That makes a damned-good sound, and the phono stage is excellent.

But that Eico still does things that little bit more for me with voice and woodwind, even if it may sometimes seem a little bass heavy.

So I'm playing around with a couple of ideas. First is to get that Eico modified and upgraded -- and made prettier (as it's as ugly as a dog with mange). I was thinking of cutting out the tone controls and the loudness circuits, putting new caps everywhere, adding new sockets and a new power cord. On the other hand, I was also thinking about getting a pair of tube power amps, maybe an old pair or something new, on a budget of about £300 ($550). I notice some of those Antique Sound amps sell very cheaply, but I'm worried that the transformers in them must be lightweight, or I could go for a pair of Dyna ST70s as a mono pair, or maybe a couple of mono Heath W-4s?

Your thoughts on these musings would be most welcome!

Graham

It doesn't sound like you need any input from me -- I'd say you're doing fine on your own. You're trusting your ears and you're keeping it fun -- and I think that's what it's all about.

Almost all of the amps you've mentioned will be "colored" compared to solid state, but so what? Flat ain't necessarily where it's at.

The plus side of the Dynas is that they're cheap and easy to mod, but as basic and simple as that circuit is, there are contemporary tube amps that are a lot less "tubey" and probably more reliable -- a Conrad-Johnson MV-50, for example.

And I like the Antique Sound stuff an awful lot. Maybe you can get heftier power supplies, but the ones they come with have impressed me sonically, so I'd strongly consider that option as well.

I'd end with the advice to keep on having fun -- but you seem to have that one sussed out on your own.


Active crossovers

June 22, 2004

Hi Wes,

First of all, thanks for a great site. I've learned lots from it.

I'm curious about active crossovers. As far as I can understand they are quite an improvement on passive crossovers (I've been reading the Elliot Sound Products website, among others -- lots of interesting information). But, having read a fair number of audio magazines and review sites, I can't recall a single reference to them. Nor are they ever mentioned in the many questions regarding how to upgrade a system. Is there some great, dark secret that I'm missing? I thought that most studios used powered monitors (with built-in active crossovers), and that they are suitable, even preferable, when making a recording in the first place. Why then do they receive so little mention in home audio? Powered speakers (with built-in active crossovers) are sometimes reviewed, but there's never a mention of active crossovers (as separate units) being added to a system.

What sort of improvements might be had with even good-quality budget speakers and a separate active crossover? Could it be comparable to buying better speakers, or is it misdirected money? In what cases would it be money well spent?

Gordon

Active crossovers can sound superior to passive ones, since they allow you to separately amplify the individual drivers with amps best suited to their requirements.

But there's a problem Most loudspeakers have their crossovers permanently connected to the drivers so you can't use an outboard active crossover -- not even with biwirable models (since biwirable crossovers are still in the circuit).

It's not common now, but there have been loudspeakers designed to employ active crossovers. Some classic Linn, JBL, and Apogee models were designed to utilize standard passive (and) aftermarket active crossovers. Linn's top-of-the-line models still use 'em.

In an active loudspeaker that uses separate amplifiers for the woofer and tweeter, the crossovers are, by definition, active and it is true that many studios use active monitors, but just as many do not.

If you build your own speakers, purchasing or assembling an active crossover can be beneficial and even cost-effective, but as a speaker upgrade on the average budget loudspeaker, active crossovers are neither recommended nor even practical.


NAD CD players

June 18, 2004

Hi Wes,

I'm going to buy a new CD player, and I'm thinking about the NAD 542 and S500i. Is there a big difference between them for the price? What do you think about them? My amp is an Onkyo A9711 Integra and my loudspeakers are Tannoy R3s. I listen to pop/rock music. Do you recommend any other CD players?

Audi O'Phile

I haven't directly compared the two. The 542 is a very good player and it sounds a lot more expensive than its price would indicate.

The S500i seems to be even more solidly constructed and it specs out better, but the proof of the pudding is in the, umm, listening, in this case. Its heftier power supply and build-quality should also translate into longer life, but since I haven't put one through long-term testing, that's simply speculation.

If you're seriously considering the S500i, I'd also listen to the Arcam DIVA CD82 I recommended to Sean below.


Sub-$1000 CD player

June 16, 2004

Hi Wes,

I really dig your website. Very cool -- many thanks.

My question, whilst simple, has me confused. I am looking for a good-sounding CD player for under a thousand bucks! Seems simple enough, and yet with over a hundred to choose from, and a dozen really good ones to choose from, I am lost. I also can't tell the difference between using a cheaper CD player as a transport and then running it through a good DAC, or using the same amount of money and just buying a good CD player.

Sean

At the sub-$1000 level, I don't think there's any question that a single-chassis unit is the way to go. Actually, in general, I tend to prefer one-box players, since you get better sound and build quality with them than with two separate equal-priced units. Of course, when you reach the cost-no-logic portion of the market, all bets are off -- but I like expensive one-box players, too.

At under $1000, you'd be hard-pressed to do much better than the Arcam DIVA CD82. It's a killer.


Back to analog

June 15, 2004

Hi Wes,

I'm getting back to analog after many years of almost exclusively listening to CDs, and I'd appreciate your advice.

I have already ordered an Oracle Delphi Mk V turntable ready for a Rega RB-300 tonearm (also purchased), but I'm having trouble deciding what cartridge to use -- a MM or MC?

I'll be using a phono preamp, Pro-Ject The Tube, that handles both types; the preamp I have is an ARC LS25 Mk II (then comes the Krell FPB-300c and the MartinLogan Prodigy speakers).

There are far too many options on MCs (MM is easier I guess: Shure V15 or Rega Exact -- would you agree?) -- low or high output, with sky-high prices. What to do? Which cartridge and type do you think would be a good combo for the setup I have?

Marcelo

Your 'table and 'arm could handle just about anything you might want, so they aren't going to limit you to a handful of candidates.

Yes, moving coils get pretty pricey -- and they can be confusing. However, they are popular for a reason and that is that they tend to offer more detail and inner voicing than MMs. The question is always whether or not you value those qualities enough to pay for them.

The V-15 and the Exact are really good and you may decide that the extra you would spend on a moving coil takes you beyond the point of diminishing returns -- and that's certainly an understandable response. But try to get a dealer to give you a demonstration of a good MM and a "step up" MC using the same 'table and 'arm. It can be an ear-opener -- or it might convince you that MMs are plenty good enough. Either way, only you can make that decision.


Reasonably priced MC cartridge

June 10, 2004

Hi Wes,

I noted in the archives that you're fond of the Klyne phono preamp. I just today took possession of a used one, and I am using it with a Shure M97xE cartridge and Cary SLI-80 tubed integrated amp. As all that I've read about the Klyne includes references to MC cartridges, am I not using it to its best advantage with the Shure MM?

If that's the case, is there a reasonably priced MC cartridge that you feel mates well with the Klyne?

Ron

One of the things the Klyne has going for it is its adjustability, which makes it ideal for a wide range of moving-coil cartridges which require different levels of gain and lots of options for capacitive loading. Since you don't need those options, I suppose someone could argue that you aren't using it to its "best advantage."

But that person wouldn't be me -- the Klyne also shines because it just flat out sounds good, which I am sure it does with your Shure.

Of course, you do have the option of trading up to an MC some day and if you choose to exercise it, the Klyne won't limit your options. As to which cartridge to buy, I'd consider buying a used cartridge and having it retipped/rebuilt through Stanalog, which gives you a "better than new" cartridge at a very reasonable price.


Who spends that kind of money?

June 8, 2004

Dear Wes,

I love music. I love good sound -- and bad sound bugs the hell out of me.

But I don't consider myself an audiophile. I like putting systems together and playing music on them without worrying whether I incorporate the latest "tweak of the week" or not. I'm still using original Advent loudspeakers that I bought new in 1978, because I like the way they sound.

Another reason I don't consider myself an audiophile is money. Why on earth would I pay $29,000 for a turntable? That's half of what I paid for my house 12 years ago!

I suppose this is an age-old hi-fi question. Obviously, others in the high-end world think differently, or there wouldn't be so many small, esoteric (and large, esoteric) companies out there that no one's ever heard of making $80,000-per-pair speakers and $20,000 CD players and who knows what else that costs five figures.

But I still wonder how they stay in business. Surely there aren't that many people out there able (or willing) to pony up that much for hi-fi components, are there?

Just something I've wondered about. Thanks for listening!

Dan Strayer

It's an interesting question and I've wondered about it too.

There are small companies that make expensive, esoteric components simply because they believe that's the only way to do it -- companies like Spectral, for example, which never went "big-time" because its principal insists on personally inspecting every unit that goes out the door.

But there are other companies that exhibit at trade shows and get reviews, but you never run into their products in the real world. I think of these firms as "members of the club," since they seem to be in the business just to hang out with other hi-fi types.

As to prices, I try not to contemplate them. Yes, many of them seem quite absurd to me. But the same is true of cars, watches, and even fountain pens. I was looking at a pair of Pearl Izumi cycling shorts today and found myself attempting to justify $200 for 6.5 ounces of Lycra. (I resisted, but I did bookmark the page, so I'm not out of the woods yet.)

We used to have a saying when I sold hi-fi: "Never put your wallet in somebody else's pants." I only know what stuff is worth to me. I try not to dictate what someone should be allowed to spend.

Since I have a lot more love of music than I have money, your value system sounds about right to me -- for me, that is.

Then again, I really hate paying $9.50 to go to movie, but I almost paid $200 for cycling shorts, so what do I know?


Musical Fidelity headphone amp

June 4, 2004

Hi Wes,

I currently use a pair of AKG 340 headphones through a Musical Fidelity X-Can V1. I was considering the Sennheiser HD 650s with the new V3 X-Can, but I wasn't sure whether the stretch to the Sugden Bijou was worth the extra bucks.

As far as musical preferences go, I'm a blues, blues-rock listener through a Mark Levinson/Wilson Audio WATT/Puppy system. Is there anything you can recommend that would delight?

Ray

Tough question, and the answer comes down to what type of audiophile you are. Judging from your ownership of a Levinson/Wilson system, I'd guess you're pretty particular -- and aren't we all?

On the one hand, the Sugden has the quality and detail you're used to from your Levinson rig, but the X-Can offers that tube sweetness and presence. If you want to mix things up a bit with your headphone rig, the Musical Fidelity will give you a nice change of pace.


"Audiophile" sound

June 2, 2004

Dear Wes,

What does an "audiophile" listen for in a system that makes him determine whether or not a system is "audiophile" grade or not?

I know that personal preference has a lot to do with it and simply if you like the way a system sounds or not. But there has to be a common quality or property (for lack of a better way to describe it) to all this equipment that makes an audiophile say "this is good" or "this is junk."

I'm a guitar player and used to teach guitar years ago, so I do know how to listen to something and pick out minute details that would go unnoticed by the usual listener unless pointed out to them. Are these minute details simply easier to hear or much more apparent on audiophile-grade equipment, or is there another quality (build/construction quality aside) to all this equipment that is the determinant of good or bad?

Mark

"Audiophile" is really just a marketing term. It came into use to distinguish well-made limited-production equipment from mass-market gear, but it gets thrown about a lot to mean "better than the other guy's products."

Since there's no "Audiophile Council" setting standards, anybody can call their products "audiophile quality."

If I had to come up with a definition, it would be that a product that stressed construction quality and was designed from a viewpoint of maximizing musical enjoyment (as opposed to being made cheap to sell cheap) is one that stresses audiophile qualities.

There are inexpensive products with an audiophile ethos, just as there are super-expensive products that are just big, dumb mass-market products with thick faceplates.

In that, hi-fi is a lot like guitars. Some manufacturers get it -- and know what their consumers want and need. Others just know what they sell at a given price point.


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