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October 1, 2000

 

A Conversation with David Chesky of Chesky Records

David Chesky is a musician, record label A&R man, composer, and audiophile. He’s always in motion -- his hands tap out rhythms, his eyes roam the room, he twists and turns nervously when talking to you. But he’s not the hyperkinetic kid he first appears to be. As his music is increasingly showing, David’s a thinker -- one willing to ponder those big "midnight of the soul" questions, such as The Agnostic’s central quandary: If there is a god, how can we reconcile his existence with the apparently cruel and random nature of life? I caught up with David just as he returned from LA’s AES convention.


Wes Phillips: You just got back from AES where Chesky had a major press announcement, didn’t you?

David Chesky: Basically, we were demoing our new 6.0 discs, which have six channels of 24/96. I feel that 5.1, which we’ve inherited from home theater, is like a hand-me-down from our "older brother" -- it’s sort of like, here, make this fit. It’s not really designed for music.

What we did was keep the front left and right channels, as well as the side/rear channels. We substituted the center channel and assigned it to 55 degrees left, high in the air, and the subwoofer channel we assigned to 55 degrees right, high in the air. So what you are looking at, when you face front, is a left and right loudspeaker about 30 degrees off your axis and then two outriggers about 55 degrees off axis, and up high -- for height information. So it’s essentially your proscenium reflection and it makes for a greater sense of envelopment. And all we’re asking you to do is reposition your speakers.

It’s pretty amazing, given its simplicity.

We have a sampler coming out, taken from material on the 24/96 DADs, and then we’ll release the newest Chuck Mangione disc. We’ll also be releasing five SACD titles from our 24/96 catalog.

[For more detail on Chesky's 6.0 process, please see below for the article immediately following this one.]

WP: That’s exciting. Now tell me about life as a classical composer. Tell me about The Agnostic. (Click Here to Read Review)

DC: Well, that’s the world’s most expensive coffee coaster right now. You know, I write this stuff and I put it out there, but people aren’t really interested. Virgil Thomson said, "America requires nothing from its composers except they be dead." I hate to sound down, but we live in a world that’s predicated on rewarding mediocrity, instead of a society that tries to get the best out of people. We actually try to get the worst -- the stupider it is, the trite-er it is, the grosser it is, the better it sells. Rappers sell ten million records and classical composers can’t get arrested.

People want to hear stuff they’ve heard before -- they want to review another Chopin recording. I’m about to release some symphonies and I’ve got three more psalms I’ve written and want to record -- and I’m starting a new oratorio. So maybe, by the time I’m ninety, people will notice I’m out there.

Everybody I know who is a composer has to make their living teaching, writing movie scores, or something like that. America doesn’t really reward its composers with wealth and fame.

WP: Choral composers seem to do a little better -- especially if they can reach that huge market of singers directly, the way John Rutter did through Collegium Records.

DC: John Rutter is doing well, that’s for sure. All I can do is send The Agnostic out there to orchestras -- that’s all I can do. We live in a marketing culture, so I’ll market.

WP: Okay. So how does the market look to you as a record label executive at a jazz/classical label?

DC: It’s really grim out there. Look at the big artists -- it’s all crossover now, nobody’s interested in classical any more.

WP: But jazz is still doing well?

DC: Not like it used to -- from a record executive’s point of view, today we live in an incredibly polarized environment. Either you’re Madonna and you sell two million or you’re not, and you sell two. Either you’re McDonald’s or you’re broke. It’s a marketing culture -- in twenty years you’ll have an artist of the month and they’ll sell ten million copies, next month it’s someone else’s turn.

Look at all the independents that used to be around -- King Karol, Music Maze over on Third. They’re gone. The independent record store, the niche market, doesn’t exist any more -- there’s just a bunch of mega-stores that nobody can tell apart. Record stores are all like The Gap now. Welcome to the future of Corporate America -- we’re going to be a nation of fast video-game reflexes and no intelligence.

WP: That’s pretty grim.

DC: I see it getting worse. We no longer teach music in the schools -- so why should we expect people to understand complex music? They can’t and that’s not going to be reversed without a concerted effort that I don’t see happening.

Hey, I don’t have the answers. All I can do is keep slugging like a good fighter and hope we can change things through art. But sometimes I feel like I’m pounding my head against the wall.

WP: So what’s next?

DC: Another group of psalms. Psalm four is for cello and orchestra; five is for clarinet and orchestra; and six is a tone poem. They’re called Remembrance for Victims of the Modern Holocaust -- we learned nothing from WWII. Never again! has turned out to be a meaningless phrase and we’re just going to continue happening until we learn empathy. That’ll be out in March or April.


Chesky Records Explains Their 6.0 Surround System

What is DVD-Audio?

The advantages of 24/96 Super Audio DVDs can be best illustrated by comparing them to Compact Discs. CDs consist of two channels of 16-bit PCM audio sampled at 44,100 times per second. A 16-bit sample can contain 65,536 possible amplitude (or volume) levels. 24/96 Super Audio DVDs can contain 16-, 20-, or 24-bit PCM audio sampled 96,000 times per second. In the case of 24-bit audio, the samples can contain 16,777,216 possible amplitude levels!

You’ll hear more soundstage depth, textures within the music will be more apparent, greater large and small scale dynamic contrasts will add more excitement, and thanks to the more than doubling of the sampling rate to 96kHz, you will experience effortless high-frequency extension and purity.

What are Chesky Super DVD-Audio 6.0 Full Range Multichannel Recordings?

5.1 surround sound was designed for video.We feel at Chesky Records that 5.1 is not the right format to extract all the music and information that multi-channel DVD-Audio has to offer. Chesky 6.0 full-range multi-channel was designed to put you, the listener, in the performance space.

How do we do this?

Well, 5.1 DVD-Audio actually has the capability of delivering six full range channels of music. We reassign the Center Channel (Channel 5) to the left 55° speaker and the Subwoofer LFE Channel (Channel 6) to the right 55° speaker (see diagram). In a concert hall, proscenium reflections dominant hall ambience, and when you take advantage of our 6.0 surround, the 55° speakers will recreate those spatial cues in your listening room.

We also suggest that the rear speakers be placed 135° to 145° in the rear since most real-world listening rooms cannot fit the 110° rear placement suggested in 5.1.

Channel assignments:

  • Channel 1 left front speaker
  • Channel 2 right front speaker
  • Channel 3 left rear speaker (135-145 degrees)
  • Channel 4 right rear speaker (135-145 degrees)
  • Channel 5 left side 55 degree speaker (this was the center channel)
  • Channel 6 right side 55 degree speaker (this was the subwoofer channel)

For Best Performance:

  1. All speakers must equidistant from the listener.
  2. Experiment with raising the side 55° speakers to a height of 3 to 7 feet.
  3. You can experiment with the placement of the rear speakers as well. We recommend 135° to 145°, but 110° to 145° will offer acceptable results. This is obviously room-dependent, and remember to keep all the speakers an equal distance from the listener.

6.0 to 5.1 Compatibility

If you wish to play this recording on a 5.1 system, you can disconnect the Center Channel (Channel 5) and Subwoofer Channel (Channel 6). This will result in a 4.0 system that will still sound very good. You can also play the recording in 5.1 mode without disconnecting Channel 5 and 6 and still the sound will be acceptable. Lastly, you can play this recording in 2-Channel stereo by simply playing it in the stereo mode.

Setting the Channel Playback Levels

At the end of this disc you will find a setup test tone of filtered pink noise (courtesy of Tom Holman and TMH Labs) that you can use to equalize the output of all your channels. Some professional recording studios use 85dB "C" weighted, while many film labs prefer to use 83dB "C" weighted. For home use, we recommend using a Sound Pressure Meter set to 78dB "C" weighted and adjust your preamp so all the channels are at the same volume.

Now sit back and enjoy Chesky Records 6.0 Super DVD Audio concert hall realism!

To learn more about Chesky Records, visit their website at www.chesky.com.


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